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	<title>Comments on: You have a &#8220;fundamental right&#8221; to wireless service</title>
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		<title>By: shortz</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/10/05/you-have-a-basic-right-to-wireless-service/comment-page-1/#comment-36757</link>
		<dc:creator>shortz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2005 15:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Governments are notoriously abominable at running businesses. They have no concept of efficiency, are exceedingly wasteful, and have ineffective customer service&quot;

Why do they need to run the business end? The government was good at achieving universal -- specially rural -- electrification.  No reason why it can&#039;t reach universal connectivity.

&quot; In the wireless case, the whole system would have to be given to a single company to be effective (a true and dangerous monopoly), or split up and given to many companies, which invites poor communication between them, lowering the quality of the service.&quot;

I don&#039;t see why it has to be done poorly.  Let them bid on bandwidth and useability on a govt provided infrastructure.  Just like we do with roads.

We should make sure that we don&#039;t have cronies, and that we don&#039;t elect people of the party that believe government is ineffective.  That way it&#039;ll turn out to be ineffective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Governments are notoriously abominable at running businesses. They have no concept of efficiency, are exceedingly wasteful, and have ineffective customer service&#8221;</p>
<p>Why do they need to run the business end? The government was good at achieving universal &#8212; specially rural &#8212; electrification.  No reason why it can&#8217;t reach universal connectivity.</p>
<p>&#8221; In the wireless case, the whole system would have to be given to a single company to be effective (a true and dangerous monopoly), or split up and given to many companies, which invites poor communication between them, lowering the quality of the service.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see why it has to be done poorly.  Let them bid on bandwidth and useability on a govt provided infrastructure.  Just like we do with roads.</p>
<p>We should make sure that we don&#8217;t have cronies, and that we don&#8217;t elect people of the party that believe government is ineffective.  That way it&#8217;ll turn out to be ineffective.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/10/05/you-have-a-basic-right-to-wireless-service/comment-page-1/#comment-36625</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2005 05:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most Americans have access to free television and radio over the public airwaves. I don&#039;t see how free internet service would be any different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most Americans have access to free television and radio over the public airwaves. I don&#8217;t see how free internet service would be any different.</p>
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		<title>By: Sister Toldjah</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/10/05/you-have-a-basic-right-to-wireless-service/comment-page-1/#comment-36604</link>
		<dc:creator>Sister Toldjah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 22:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey ya&#039;ll, if I moved to SF, you think I could lobby Mayor Newsom into supporting my &quot;fundamental right&quot; to a manicure?

:mrgreen:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey ya&#8217;ll, if I moved to SF, you think I could lobby Mayor Newsom into supporting my &#8220;fundamental right&#8221; to a manicure?</p>
<p> <img src='http://sistertoldjah.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':mrgreen:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/10/05/you-have-a-basic-right-to-wireless-service/comment-page-1/#comment-36601</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 21:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I am, however, of the opinion that we should be looking for ways to connect people to the internet, like we connect them to roads.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Boy, not me Shortz.  Governments are notoriously abominable at running businesses.  They have no concept of efficiency, are exceedingly wasteful, and  have ineffective customer service.  Head down to the DMV or the social security office if you doubt this.

&lt;blockquote&gt;If done right, it could be a â€˜monopoly with government and private components&#039; like fed-ex and UPS are when they use government build roads. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

1.  It involves the government, so it would not be &#039;done right&#039;.
2.  The monopoly you describe would only be a monopoly if the government built roads specifically for FedEX and UPS, and no one else was allowed to use them.  In the wireless case, the whole system would have to be given to a single company to be effective (a true and dangerous monopoly), or split up and given to many companies, which invites poor communication between them, lowering the quality of the service.

Government needs to provide internal and external protection of citizens (cops, prisons, and military), maintain roads, and provide education.  Anything else they do, they do horribly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I am, however, of the opinion that we should be looking for ways to connect people to the internet, like we connect them to roads.</p></blockquote>
<p>Boy, not me Shortz.  Governments are notoriously abominable at running businesses.  They have no concept of efficiency, are exceedingly wasteful, and  have ineffective customer service.  Head down to the DMV or the social security office if you doubt this.</p>
<blockquote><p>If done right, it could be a â€˜monopoly with government and private components&#8217; like fed-ex and UPS are when they use government build roads. </p></blockquote>
<p>1.  It involves the government, so it would not be &#8216;done right&#8217;.<br />
2.  The monopoly you describe would only be a monopoly if the government built roads specifically for FedEX and UPS, and no one else was allowed to use them.  In the wireless case, the whole system would have to be given to a single company to be effective (a true and dangerous monopoly), or split up and given to many companies, which invites poor communication between them, lowering the quality of the service.</p>
<p>Government needs to provide internal and external protection of citizens (cops, prisons, and military), maintain roads, and provide education.  Anything else they do, they do horribly.</p>
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		<title>By: shortz</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/10/05/you-have-a-basic-right-to-wireless-service/comment-page-1/#comment-36590</link>
		<dc:creator>shortz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 16:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What&#039;s the difference between &quot;fundamental&quot; and &quot;basic&quot;? Nothing.&quot;

I&#039;m sorry. When you put it into quotes it looks like you mean that&#039;s what he said. Its innacurate. He said &quot;fundamental.&quot;  

There may not be a difference to you, but that doesn&#039;t mean you get to make up quotes. You can paraphrase -- as the article does when it mentions &quot;basic.&quot; But that is different than making up quotes.

&lt;em&gt;&quot;Making up quotes?&quot;   That&#039;s a slam against my integrity.    You were ok with the first sentence, but not the second one. --ST&lt;/em&gt;

My opinion is that this is a politician arguing for his plan. I don&#039;t think our constitution offers that many positive rights.  We&#039;ve probably signed treaties that say that, but I&#039;m sure people are ready to argue that the US signing a treaty is meaningless. 

I am, however, of the opinion that we should be looking for ways to connect people to the internet, like we connect them to roads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What&#8217;s the difference between &#8220;fundamental&#8221; and &#8220;basic&#8221;? Nothing.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry. When you put it into quotes it looks like you mean that&#8217;s what he said. Its innacurate. He said &#8220;fundamental.&#8221;  </p>
<p>There may not be a difference to you, but that doesn&#8217;t mean you get to make up quotes. You can paraphrase &#8212; as the article does when it mentions &#8220;basic.&#8221; But that is different than making up quotes.</p>
<p><em>&#8220;Making up quotes?&#8221;   That&#8217;s a slam against my integrity.    You were ok with the first sentence, but not the second one. &#8211;ST</em></p>
<p>My opinion is that this is a politician arguing for his plan. I don&#8217;t think our constitution offers that many positive rights.  We&#8217;ve probably signed treaties that say that, but I&#8217;m sure people are ready to argue that the US signing a treaty is meaningless. </p>
<p>I am, however, of the opinion that we should be looking for ways to connect people to the internet, like we connect them to roads.</p>
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		<title>By: Sister Toldjah</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/10/05/you-have-a-basic-right-to-wireless-service/comment-page-1/#comment-36589</link>
		<dc:creator>Sister Toldjah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 16:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Careful. He didn&#039;t say &quot;basic right.&quot; You should&#039;t put that in quotes when he&#039;s not quoted as saying that.&quot;

He said &quot;fundamental right&quot; .  The headline states that he saw WiFi as a basic right.  If you read on, that&#039;s exactly what he was talking about.

What&#039;s the difference between &quot;fundamental&quot; and &quot;basic&quot;? &lt;a&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Nothing&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.

Now, your opinion on that &quot;right&quot; would be ...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Careful. He didn&#8217;t say &#8220;basic right.&#8221; You should&#8217;t put that in quotes when he&#8217;s not quoted as saying that.&#8221;</p>
<p>He said &#8220;fundamental right&#8221; .  The headline states that he saw WiFi as a basic right.  If you read on, that&#8217;s exactly what he was talking about.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the difference between &#8220;fundamental&#8221; and &#8220;basic&#8221;? <a><strong>Nothing</strong></a>.</p>
<p>Now, your opinion on that &#8220;right&#8221; would be &#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: shortz</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/10/05/you-have-a-basic-right-to-wireless-service/comment-page-1/#comment-36588</link>
		<dc:creator>shortz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 16:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Careful. He didn&#039;t say &quot;basic right.&quot;  You should&#039;t put that in quotes when he&#039;s not quoted as saying that.

&quot;And doesn&#039;t this create a de-facto monopoly with both government and private components? &quot;

If done right, it could be a &#039;monopoly with government and private components&#039; like fed-ex and UPS are when they use government build roads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Careful. He didn&#8217;t say &#8220;basic right.&#8221;  You should&#8217;t put that in quotes when he&#8217;s not quoted as saying that.</p>
<p>&#8220;And doesn&#8217;t this create a de-facto monopoly with both government and private components? &#8221;</p>
<p>If done right, it could be a &#8216;monopoly with government and private components&#8217; like fed-ex and UPS are when they use government build roads.</p>
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		<title>By: Seth</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/10/05/you-have-a-basic-right-to-wireless-service/comment-page-1/#comment-36352</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 02:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Walter E. Wallis! Yep! The fact that this town is run only by liberals(a conservative Democrat here, as I&#039;ve said before, would be viewed as a redneck) is directly responsible for the filthy, smelly streets and for the &quot;right&quot; of homeless people to use doorways and sidewalks as bathrooms.

I actually voted for Newsom :oops: because he was the lesser of all evils(there were, as usual, only liberals on the ballot) and the most businesslike(he&#039;d even pushed through a proposition to stop giving the homeless free party money every month and instead putting the money into programs to help them-- Proposition N-- but that was overturned by the 9th Circus or some other socialist institution as &quot;unconstitutional&quot; or something), and we see what kind of Mayor he&#039;s turned out to be. And believe me, he WAS the best choice, so you can have some idea of what the rest of the field looked like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Walter E. Wallis! Yep! The fact that this town is run only by liberals(a conservative Democrat here, as I&#8217;ve said before, would be viewed as a redneck) is directly responsible for the filthy, smelly streets and for the &#8220;right&#8221; of homeless people to use doorways and sidewalks as bathrooms.</p>
<p>I actually voted for Newsom <img src='http://sistertoldjah.com/smilies/yahoo_ooooh.gif' alt='&#58;&#111;' class='wp-smiley' width='18' height='18' title='&#58;&#111;' />ops: because he was the lesser of all evils(there were, as usual, only liberals on the ballot) and the most businesslike(he&#8217;d even pushed through a proposition to stop giving the homeless free party money every month and instead putting the money into programs to help them&#8211; Proposition N&#8211; but that was overturned by the 9th Circus or some other socialist institution as &#8220;unconstitutional&#8221; or something), and we see what kind of Mayor he&#8217;s turned out to be. And believe me, he WAS the best choice, so you can have some idea of what the rest of the field looked like.</p>
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		<title>By: Steroid</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/10/05/you-have-a-basic-right-to-wireless-service/comment-page-1/#comment-36346</link>
		<dc:creator>Steroid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 01:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So. . . for the past 4 billion years, our rights have been violated?  Thank goodness this guy came along to reverse the trend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So. . . for the past 4 billion years, our rights have been violated?  Thank goodness this guy came along to reverse the trend.</p>
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		<title>By: mlgsac</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/10/05/you-have-a-basic-right-to-wireless-service/comment-page-1/#comment-36341</link>
		<dc:creator>mlgsac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2005 23:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think baklava should be a right.  I love that stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think baklava should be a right.  I love that stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Baklava</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/10/05/you-have-a-basic-right-to-wireless-service/comment-page-1/#comment-36321</link>
		<dc:creator>Baklava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2005 19:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was a great laugh! Thanks Kevin!</description>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/10/05/you-have-a-basic-right-to-wireless-service/comment-page-1/#comment-36319</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2005 19:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welp, it&#039;s official.  I&#039;m becoming a Democrat and demanding free air conditioning.  Air conditioning is a fundamental right of all Americans.

Also ice cream.  Ice cream is a right, not a privilege.

Wow, being a Democrat is going to be fun!  Ok, cya, I&#039;ve got to go protest something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welp, it&#8217;s official.  I&#8217;m becoming a Democrat and demanding free air conditioning.  Air conditioning is a fundamental right of all Americans.</p>
<p>Also ice cream.  Ice cream is a right, not a privilege.</p>
<p>Wow, being a Democrat is going to be fun!  Ok, cya, I&#8217;ve got to go protest something.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Skubinna</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/10/05/you-have-a-basic-right-to-wireless-service/comment-page-1/#comment-36316</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Skubinna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2005 18:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope this doesn&#039;t derail San Francisco&#039;s plan to provide every citizen a free firearm to support Second Amendment rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope this doesn&#8217;t derail San Francisco&#8217;s plan to provide every citizen a free firearm to support Second Amendment rights.</p>
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		<title>By: Baklava</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/10/05/you-have-a-basic-right-to-wireless-service/comment-page-1/#comment-36314</link>
		<dc:creator>Baklava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2005 18:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Foster,

Does that mean Google will be providing the &quot;free&quot; laptops? I&#039;ll dress like a bum and go get me one because I don&#039;t have a laptop myself. :idea:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Foster,</p>
<p>Does that mean Google will be providing the &#8220;free&#8221; laptops? I&#8217;ll dress like a bum and go get me one because I don&#8217;t have a laptop myself. <img src='http://sistertoldjah.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_idea.gif' alt=':idea:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Walter E. Wallis</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2005/10/05/you-have-a-basic-right-to-wireless-service/comment-page-1/#comment-36312</link>
		<dc:creator>Walter E. Wallis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2005 17:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Gavin baby! I drove through Frisco yesterday on business. What about my God given right to a parking space and to make a left turn to get to my destination instead of having to drive a mile of right turns? And how about a Union Square that doesn&#039;t smell like an outhouse?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Gavin baby! I drove through Frisco yesterday on business. What about my God given right to a parking space and to make a left turn to get to my destination instead of having to drive a mile of right turns? And how about a Union Square that doesn&#8217;t smell like an outhouse?</p>
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