Actually no. I’m proud that I was an instrument used by the Government to catch terrorists and hear of upcoming plots.

Also, I stupidly wrapped Christmas presents last year before traveling from CA to VA. One of the items was glass and iron and the security gaurds had to unwrap my neatly wrapped presents at the airport. I felt violated ! My civil rights my civil rights ! Impeach Bush !

“Fact: FISA was NOT an obstacle to intelligence gathering.”
In reality, if Bush used the FISA law, there would have been tremendous obstacles. The call could be monitored, but the American terrorist’s name, phone number and all the words he said would have to be edited out of the transcript. Only the foreign terrorist’s statements could be recorded. Being anti-terrorist, I consider that a waste of valuable information that could save lives.

“Fact: Domestic spying is un Constitutional.”

Wholly false. It is done quite often. In times of war, it has and continues to be done without warrant. In fact, Clinton, not in a time of war, performed a search and seizure without a warrant on some mobsters using the exact same reasoning as Bush is doing. You did not hear any public outcry from the Republicans even though Clinton was in charge, because most conservatives are anti-mob as well as anri-terrorist.

“Fact: Bush bypassed the law.”

The FISA law, true, the law, false.

What civil liberty was violated, btw? The right to hold private conversations with terrorists abroad? What civil liberty have you lost since the war on terror began?

You’re still doing it.

Buh bye.

Your Bush Hate blinds you. We are talking about communications with known terrorists, not calls to your mommy.

Also, Democrats were briefed. It is not our fault if they had amnesia, are stupid, or are rewriting history to try to lie their way into power.

As for protecting those that destroy our nation and its constitution, who is defending whom?

It seems to me that you are merely defending King George as a knee-jerk reaction. You would be screaming bloody murder if this scandal were Clinton.

Let’s not get off track though.

Fact: FISA was NOT an obstacle to intelligence gathering.

Fact: Domestic spying is un Constitutional

Fact: Bush bypassed the law.

Fact: Congress did NOT approve.

Fact: The Justive department did NOT approve.

Fact: AUMF does not give Shrub the authority for domestic snooping.

Fact: Presidents do NOT have the power to violate the law, even in war-time (which we are not in presently–AUMF is not a Congressional declaration of war)

I am no more in favor of violence and terror than you, but the ends do not jusrtify the means. Giving the Preznit’s motives benefit of the doubt (try it when it’s a Dem), the current violation of civil liberties will not make us safer.

Child, you don’t seem to realize that most Americans don’t believe the President broke the law when he spied on terrorists in America. I would guess that if it turned out that he DID break the law (doubtful imo), most Americans would be glad he did it to spy on terrorists, regardless of their nationality or location. I don’t care about terrorists rights coming under fire. Why do you? Of course, I’m anti-terrorist, so my opinion is biased…

Break the law. There is a debate over whether he did or not. THere are Dems who think he didn’t and Repub’s who think he did. Just because you write in a blog about the REpub’s who think he may have doesn’t mean “Shrub” did break the law.

It’d be nice if you can stop calling. Though it looks like you are this close “” to being irrelevant on this blog if you keep it up.

“Aww shucks…I guess since all those wingnuts say so, the President is justified in breaking the law though he didn’t need to. ”

Which is why I posted what I did in return about leftist wingnuts.

Do me a favor, either stop acting like a “child” or find somewhere else to pull your deliberately obtuse act, ok?

Bush informed Congress he was going to break the law? By Congress do you mean ALL of Congress? Remember the letter I noted above that you claim doesn’t come from Congress? Well that standard should apply nicely here as well.

Nah, that’s too easy.

Check here.

Or listen to what this Congressman says:
ABC: You were Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee at the time the President signed this executive order. Vice President Cheney met with congressional leaders — I’m sure you were among them in 2002, is that correct?

GRAHAM: We were not informed that this would be a pretense for using warrantless searchs to listen in to the private conversations of United States citizens.

As usual, everything Bush says is a lie. Don’t believe me? Try a looksy at this nice little list about the misinformation the White House is spreading about this latest imperial maneuver.

But to be serious for a second–maybe we can stop talking past one another, and I can get a straight answer from you guys and gals.

What exactly does Shrub have to do before you realize he’s overextended his authority? What exactly does constitute a breach of the separation of powers in this case? Is there a line you guys will not let him cross?

Seriously.

Nice blog, Sis!

I think he’s Steve’s child.