Comments on: The DNC is unhappy with Howard Dean again http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/03/05/the-dnc-is-unhappy-with-howard-dean-again/ Don't dis or dismiss this miss! Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:25:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Big Bang Hunter http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/03/05/the-dnc-is-unhappy-with-howard-dean-again/comment-page-1/#comment-85799 Big Bang Hunter Mon, 06 Mar 2006 00:21:31 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/03/05/the-dnc-is-unhappy-with-howard-dean-again/#comment-85799 - For once Andrew I agree with you. The problems of short timebase thinking have become so systemic in the Liberal leadership, gains on the ground are as short lived as the next news cycle, and the basic problem with that is that most of the "Outrages of the moments" turn out to be far less than they seem in the beginning, and therefore do not add much to the overall gravitas for the Democrats. - I and others have been saying for over three years now, that the Dems need a Newt like plan to recapture public interest, and begin the long climb back to national party viability. Sans that, even possible good efforts such as Deans ideas of going headon in the strongholds of the right, will lose steam and be wasted exercises. - Pelosi and Reid are reacting in a human enough way, looking for the fast track, but the situation with Hillery muddies the water, putting the twin camps within the party core at loggerheads, at a time when they need cohesiveness the most. - If the Dems are going to go that route, and hang all their hopes on Clinton, they need to do it as quickly as possible so they can present a common front, turning away from the moment to moment Bush bashing approach to a real party platform, and a strong public united front. - Eleventh hour rectitude is not going to get them anywhere because Bush isn't running, and the GOP is obviously going to run a very strong popular ticket, hoping to solidify their gains and continue their majority positions. If the economy remains strong, and Iraq settles down the Democrats have a really difficult political hill to climb. - Bang **== - For once Andrew I agree with you. The problems of short timebase thinking have become so systemic in the Liberal leadership, gains on the ground are as short lived as the next news cycle, and the basic problem with that is that most of the “Outrages of the moments” turn out to be far less than they seem in the beginning, and therefore do not add much to the overall gravitas for the Democrats.

- I and others have been saying for over three years now, that the Dems need a Newt like plan to recapture public interest, and begin the long climb back to national party viability. Sans that, even possible good efforts such as Deans ideas of going headon in the strongholds of the right, will lose steam and be wasted exercises.

- Pelosi and Reid are reacting in a human enough way, looking for the fast track, but the situation with Hillery muddies the water, putting the twin camps within the party core at loggerheads, at a time when they need cohesiveness the most.

- If the Dems are going to go that route, and hang all their hopes on Clinton, they need to do it as quickly as possible so they can present a common front, turning away from the moment to moment Bush bashing approach to a real party platform, and a strong public united front.

- Eleventh hour rectitude is not going to get them anywhere because Bush isn’t running, and the GOP is obviously going to run a very strong popular ticket, hoping to solidify their gains and continue their majority positions. If the economy remains strong, and Iraq settles down the Democrats have a really difficult political hill to climb.

- Bang **==

]]> By: steve http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/03/05/the-dnc-is-unhappy-with-howard-dean-again/comment-page-1/#comment-85798 steve Mon, 06 Mar 2006 00:21:19 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/03/05/the-dnc-is-unhappy-with-howard-dean-again/#comment-85798 The signs point to all sitting politicians being voted out of office this November. So only people with more money then brains are going to pony-up bucks for losers. Peace The signs point to all sitting politicians being voted out of office this November. So only people with more money then brains are going to pony-up bucks for losers. Peace

]]> By: CZ http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/03/05/the-dnc-is-unhappy-with-howard-dean-again/comment-page-1/#comment-85740 CZ Sun, 05 Mar 2006 23:47:44 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/03/05/the-dnc-is-unhappy-with-howard-dean-again/#comment-85740 Howeird Dean uses a bazooka when a pea shooter could do the trick. If the dems can't win more seats this time they will be history. Let's hope so.....:)>- Howeird Dean uses a bazooka when a pea shooter could do the trick.

If the dems can’t win more seats this time they will be history.

Let’s hope so…..:)>-

]]> By: andrew http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/03/05/the-dnc-is-unhappy-with-howard-dean-again/comment-page-1/#comment-85708 andrew Sun, 05 Mar 2006 23:33:15 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/03/05/the-dnc-is-unhappy-with-howard-dean-again/#comment-85708 "2) they'll be a referendum on whether or not Dean's money-spending strategies that have landed him a few times in hot water with the DNC will pay off big." They would make a bad referendum. The entire point of the Dean candidacy to the DNC was to stop the short term focus on the 2 year cycles. He was elected on a promise of long term reform, which ought to have no effect on the short term, or a predictably bad one. Yes you can see that congressional leaders might not like this, but its what the party needs. “2) they’ll be a referendum on whether or not Dean’s money-spending strategies that have landed him a few times in hot water with the DNC will pay off big.”

They would make a bad referendum. The entire point of the Dean candidacy to the DNC was to stop the short term focus on the 2 year cycles. He was elected on a promise of long term reform, which ought to have no effect on the short term, or a predictably bad one. Yes you can see that congressional leaders might not like this, but its what the party needs.

]]> By: Big Bang Hunter http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/03/05/the-dnc-is-unhappy-with-howard-dean-again/comment-page-1/#comment-85660 Big Bang Hunter Sun, 05 Mar 2006 18:31:52 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/03/05/the-dnc-is-unhappy-with-howard-dean-again/#comment-85660 - I think what you see going on is the grip of the hard left on the Democratic party is slipping, probably an early sign for 2008 that the Clintonestas are winning the internal struggle, as much to show a harbinger of the party swing to support Hillerys run aspirations, as a show of total disappointment that the much heralded "leftwing youth movement" and cash flow, failed to achieve in the past two elections. Look for more of this sort of "disassociation" by the more moderate elements, who see disillusioned voters swinging away from the party on the one hand, and yet more loss of Red State voter support, through alianation by impolitic public statements by Liberal faces such as Dean and Gore. - Of course the democrats worst nightmare is having to run against a Condi/Guiliani ticket. They refuse to even respond when you ask them about it, thinking about the spectre of losing a portion of their black American base under those circumstances. I don't blame them. - Bang **== - I think what you see going on is the grip of the hard left on the Democratic party is slipping, probably an early sign for 2008 that the Clintonestas are winning the internal struggle, as much to show a harbinger of the party swing to support Hillerys run aspirations, as a show of total disappointment that the much heralded “leftwing youth movement” and cash flow, failed to achieve in the past two elections. Look for more of this sort of “disassociation” by the more moderate elements, who see disillusioned voters swinging away from the party on the one hand, and yet more loss of Red State voter support, through alianation by impolitic public statements by Liberal faces such as Dean and Gore.

- Of course the democrats worst nightmare is having to run against a Condi/Guiliani ticket. They refuse to even respond when you ask them about it, thinking about the spectre of losing a portion of their black American base under those circumstances. I don’t blame them.

- Bang **==

]]> By: Jack Deth http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/03/05/the-dnc-is-unhappy-with-howard-dean-again/comment-page-1/#comment-85654 Jack Deth Sun, 05 Mar 2006 17:56:18 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/03/05/the-dnc-is-unhappy-with-howard-dean-again/#comment-85654 Good morning, Sister Toldjah! \:d/ When it comes to "Bang For The Buck" The Left is discovering that Dean Sucks! With money going to all the wrong places Buying Air Time for useless messages and ugly faces While Leftist Red State War Chests echo emptily As long as Howie sticks around, I shall dance with glee! \:d/\:d/\:d/ Jack. Good morning, Sister Toldjah! \:d/

When it comes to “Bang For The Buck”
The Left is discovering that Dean Sucks!
With money going to all the wrong places
Buying Air Time for useless messages and ugly faces
While Leftist Red State War Chests echo emptily
As long as Howie sticks around, I shall dance with glee!
\:d/\:d/\:d/

Jack.

]]> By: steve http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/03/05/the-dnc-is-unhappy-with-howard-dean-again/comment-page-1/#comment-85651 steve Sun, 05 Mar 2006 17:27:43 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/03/05/the-dnc-is-unhappy-with-howard-dean-again/#comment-85651 Dean is probably correct on this issue as he was on the war in Iraq, unlike Reid and Pelosi who gave their support to the bush war debacle. Peace Dean is probably correct on this issue as he was on the war in Iraq, unlike Reid and Pelosi who gave their support to the bush war debacle. Peace

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