We’re going to keep on praising together. I am confident that we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth….

For decades the left has raised red flags over the religious right?s political activism while silently working behind the scenes to create today?s current stranglehold on many Christian denominations. Until recently, there were few writers exploring …

Still, my point is, we don’t know if Obama/Clinton’s faith is genuine, and it’d be the proper thing to do to at least give them the benefit of the doubt.

The hypocricy of it is what I am remarking on.

Democrats also make thier ‘faith’ open for debate when they use it to pander or to make themselves suddenly church goers.

You mean like touting your faith to make a political dig on President Bush? Now sanity, I seriously doubt that any democrat would do something like that.

“First of all, I pray for President Bush all the time, and I pray especially hard that he would sign the children’s health bill because it’s so important for America’s children”

Oh, I guess I was wrong……….shocking.

I deleted the link out of your comment, because I’m not interested in having that post linked up here.

first of all, you dodged the point of my post entirely.

Second, as to the beliefs of the candidates… I don’t know about the Clinton’s belief system, except that Bill Clinton grew up and still belongs to the Southern Baptist Convention, and Hillary does not (I may be mistaken, but I vaguely remember hearing that she is Methodist).

Obama has been a Christian for some time now. He didn’t convert suddenly when he began his Senate campaign.

Now, there are a couple of possibilities. Perhaps our hostess simply deleted them, or has anything that tracks from Pandagon hit the automatic moderation queue. It is also possible that Auguste deliberately chose not to send a ping, which would be rather impolite, since commenting on someone’s article without letting that person know about it is hardly fair. Or it could be that Pandagon simply has problems with tracks and pings: even though all of the articles there show a trackback url, I have never seen a single trackback or ping appear in the comments section since they switched to blogsome.com as a server.

You seem aware of Obama’s Christian beliefs, yet dismiss his faith because it is just “feel good” Christianity. As if that’s inferior to a “feel bad” Christianity? Also, you pretty much are saying that Obama doesn’t believe in the importance of Christ’s forgiving of sins, yet you fail to actually quote him as saying he didn’t believe such. For you to determine his belief system is extremely haughty.

I do believe other made it an issue of faith with Romney’s Mormon beliefs.

Democrats also make thier ‘faith’ open for debate when they use it to pander or to make themselves suddenly church goers.

Where was Obama’s sudden church beliefs and speaking out at the pulpits when he wasn’t running or president?

Hillary? When did she become a southern baptist….bad accent and all?

Bill Clinton during his scandal suddenly started getting photo-ops with him going to church and carrying a bible, as if he was a choir boy.

They like ot blame christians for so much, demonize the religon, make fun of it – but boy do they suddenly have faith adn become ‘part’ of it when they need some votes.

I call it Faux Faith – for Faux Democrats.

It seems you’re stepping into territory where you shouldn’t be stepping.

You seem aware of Obama’s Christian beliefs, yet dismiss his faith because it is just “feel good” Christianity. As if that’s inferior to a “feel bad” Christianity? Also, you pretty much are saying that Obama doesn’t believe in the importance of Christ’s forgiving of sins, yet you fail to actually quote him as saying he didn’t believe such. For you to determine his belief system is extremely haughty.

I know this is probably a run of the mill “that politician isn’t of my party, so I must nitpick everything he does” mentality that is so common among bloggers of all viewpoints nowadays, but I also sense a bit of a denominational combativeness. May I ask what your denominational background you have?

(For the record, I am Lutheran, and no, I don’t believe our church is the only correct one.)

BTW, should we expect the ACLU to issue statements condemning both Obama’s and Pelosi’s use of God and prayer in politics?

Has the ACLU ever actually condemned anyone for saying that they pray, or describing their own religious experience? I was under the impression that they generally took issue with what they perceived as religious doctrine intruding on state actions–justifying policy decisions as “Jesus told me to”, or justifying a legislative agenda solely by pointing to the Bible and nodding vigorously.

If anyone can point out an instance where the ACLU has condemned a politician for simply mentioning their religion, I’d be much obliged.

I have no idea what Candidate Obama believes and what he doesn’t, since my brain has no direct line to his.

However, when The Candidate sayeth:

I just want all of you to pray that I can be an instrument of God in the same way that Pastor Ron and all of you are instruments of God.

I am reminded of the biblical injunction to render unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s and to render unto God that which is God’s.

Only if it’s a Republican….if it’s a Democrat, then it’s not really news.