It’s on in Iowa (UPDATE 20: BIDEN DROPS OUT)

Posted by: ST on January 3, 2008 at 7:25 pm

The caucuses will be underway at 8pm ET. The media and the blogosphere are buzzing in anticipation of what the results will be.

More and more, I really do feel like Huckabee’s going to win tonight, but don’t think it will mean much in the long term, as Rudy hasn’t been campaigning much in Iowa, nor has McCain. The real test for all candidates, I think, will be New Hampshire.

Please weigh in with your thoughts on tonight’s caucuses and the primaries to come in the comments. Feel free to post links of interest related to the caucuses as well. I’ll be scanning the headlines, too.

Update 1: CNN has live video inside both the Democratic and Republican caucuses. Check the right side of the screen, and the java links should be there.

Update 2: Keep refreshing this site as it will have the results as they come in.

Update 3: CBS/AP reports that entrance polls are showing a tight race between Hillary and Obama, and Romney and Huckabee.

Update 4 – 8:50 PM: The AP reports that Huckabee has taken a “slight lead” over Romney. He’s actually ahead by about 130 votes with 2% precincts reporting. Keep checking this link and refreshing for updates. Edwards is currently in the lead on the Democrat side by 3 votes with 19% precincts reporting.

Update 5 – 9:09 PM: MSNBC is projecting Huckabee the winner, as are CNN, ABC, and Fox. And also CBS.

Also here are two other sites you can check often for updates: For Democrats. For Republicans.

Update 6 – 9:13 PM: AP: Heavy Turnout in Iowa May Delay Process.

ST reader GWR in the comments rightly points out that Fred is defying expectations and is currently in third at this point. Ron Paul and McCain are currently in a battle for 4th. Expect the Ron Paul Truthers to go even more nuts if he beats out McCain.

Update 7 – 9:16 PM: The Politico reports that Romney has congratulated Huckabee. Still way too close to call for Dems.

Update 8 – 9:23 PM: Ron Paul slips to sixth, behind Rudy, with 41% reporting. For Democrats, it’s Obama 35%, Edwards 32%, and Hillary at 31%, with 58% reporting.

Update 9 – 9:28 PM: For what it’s worth, Drudge is calling the Dem caucus for Obama.

Brian at Liberty Pundit blogs about what he saw tonight in Iowa, and has more updates.

Update 10 – 9:31 PM: On the Dem side, with 70% reporting, it looks like this: Obama 35%, and Hillary and Edwards tied at 31%. The race for second continues.

Update 11 – 9:34 PM: CNN is projecting an Obama win in the Dem caucus. CSPAN is calling it for Obama, too.

Update 12 – 9:39 PM: Are Richardson supporters moving over “en masse” to the Obama camp as their “second choice” candidate as part of some “deal” between Obama and Richardson? The Richardson campaign says there was no deal.

Update 13: CNN reports that 60% of Republican caucus goers were evangelicals, and 45% of their votes went to Huckabee. He also won the women’s vote 45% to 23% over Romney. Rudy, as expected, is not doing well at this point and is now in sixth place, trailing Ron Paul.

Update 14: MSNBC’s First Read blog posts that their numbers on the Dem turnout show a much higher number than 2004. No word on Republican turnout numbers.

Update 15: Jim Geraghty has some sound advice for Romney, who must be feeling sick, considering how much he outpsent Huckabee in Iowa (I’m hearing it was in the 20-1 range).

And guess who is in third right now, ahead of Fred Thompson by about 40 votes? John McCain. 78% reporting.

Update 16 – 10:44 PM: MSNBC has confirmed that Chris Dodd is dropping out of the race. This link hasn’t been updated as of this writing to reflect that.

And here’s a post mortem of sorts on Hillary’s loss, via Ed Morrissey.

Update 17 – 11:00 PM: With 85% reporting, Thompson is now edging out McCain for third by around 300 votes.

And I’m headed for the pillow. Night night, ya’ll. Oh, and remember: New Hampshire is going to be the first big test for both parties. More so for Republicans than Democrats. That’s my prediction anyway, for what it’s worth …

One more thing: Jim Geraghty wrote earlier today about how Iowa Republicans are different from the rest of the country’s Republicans, and how that would work for Mike Huckabee (and in the end, it did end up working for Huck). Something else to think about going into NH.

Update 19 – 11:17 PM: The Des Moines Register reports record turnouts for both parties (h/t: MM).

Ok, g’nite for real this time!

Update 20 – 6:28 AM: Joe Biden has dropped out of the race.

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  1. Great White Rat says:

    Fox News has already project Huckabee the winner…the one beating expectations right now is Fred Thompson, who is running third.

  2. Mwalimu Daudi says:

    If the results on the Democrat side hold up (Edwards, Obama, and Clinton with about one third each), this has to be considered a victory for Hilly the Hun. It looks like Clinton Inc. still has not lost its magic in slinging mud.

    I predict that the MSM will make a concerted effort to force the Breck Girl and the Empry Suit out after this.

  3. Baklava says:

    3rd place for Fred is respectable. Go Fred Go. **==

  4. stackja says:

    A Fred and Rudy ticket?

  5. PCD says:

    Huck did better than I expected. According to today’s Dubuque T-H, the GOP order in Dubuque was Romney, McCain, Huckabee, Paul, Thompson. The Democrats were Decidedly Obama, then Clinton edged Edwards by 3 delegates.

    But Thompson got stomped here. I didn’t see the BIG turnout for McCain.

    Turnout was nuts! No one really saw it coming like this, and the move to an earlier date had both parties cramped for space in cobbled together meeting sites.

  6. Tom TB says:

    I heard on the news that our Senator had been living in Iowa, and our morning paper devoted a single sentence to him: “One casualty of the outcome was Sen.Chris Dodd, D-Conn.,who abandoned his campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination after a poor showing.”

  7. PCD says:

    Tom,

    Dodd is a bum. I disliked him when I lived in CT in the 80s. The only legislation I ever associated with him is the law protecting Federal legislators from mugging since he was a Rep that got mugged on Capitol Hill.

  8. Lorica says:

    -Rollins called said Fred Thompson was “as disgrace as a candidate. Fred has been a friend a long time, but has never converted a single vote. No one is taking him seriously.”

    Quote from Hucks Campaign manager. Who would say such a thing about a friend. I am sorry, but as a evangelical Christian, I would never vote for the 2nd man from Hope. – Lorica

  9. Tango says:

    The only real surprise for me was Edwards – he did much better than I’d figured. Guess those union boiler room operators he had workin’ for him managed to get his people out to vote. :-?

  10. Leslie says:

    Well THAT was entertaining.
    :)
    I don’t know how long this will last–maybe not even six days–but I see the Obama phenomenon as the emergence of the Breakfast Club generation. The “children that you step on” are now voting . . . and they’re voting for Obama.
    :-?
    I was appalled when I saw Hillary’s lame post-Iowa speech.
    :-s
    Edwards had already done his populista number (very effective if you like that sort of thing; cringe-making, I suppose, if you don’t), while Huckabee would be witty and modest, and Obama inspiring.
    >:d<
    Hillary came out flat, and didn’t improve. I groaned when I saw Madeleine (Aunt Bea) Albright and Wesley (Jack D. Ripper) Clark up their on the platform. Oh, and that guy with the wandering eye who was skulking around is a state senator from New York. Who let him in? And then she tries to make it sound like she’s for change. Duh.
    :^o
    As for covering the coverage: Looks like the three nets have finally found their own identities. CNN’s going to go back to delivering news; Fox is sticking with the talking heads and the news babes; MSNBC has decided to try a freak show with Der Olbermensch and Der Screamer. They made me scream and grab the remote instantly.
    :o)

    And Kansas stunned West Virginia in the Orange Bowl.
    ;)

    The next primary after NH is January 15, which is also the opening night for “American Idol.” I just thought I would mention that.

    >:)

  11. Leslie says:

    Tango,

    Good point about Edwards. Does the anti-Obama vote now turn away from Hillary and toward him? I wonder . . .

    :-?

  12. Tom TB says:

    PCD, the Senator Dodd mugging story I remember happened in the ’80s when he was with a woman staffer walking on East End Avenue to have dinner with then NYC Mayor Koch at Gracie Mansion. I was living on E84th St. at the time, and we were amazed at how fast NY’s Finest caught the perps; well, not so amazed…

  13. PCD says:

    Tom,

    That’s right. There was a now deceased US Senator that got mugged in DC in the same time frame. The Congresscritters decided to protect themselves with another law. That is why you really can’t punch a Congressman or Senator in the nose no matter how much Murtha or Durbin ask for it.

  14. Jim says:

    I am wearing my hair shirt today. On the web profusely apologizing as an Iowan and conservative for passing the Huckabee problem on to other states. Oh yes, and the DonPaul thing. I am very very sorry about him as well. His people are all excited about beating a guy that didn’t even campaign in the state (Giuliani)
    Thompson lives to fight another day. Good.

  15. Jim says:

    Wanted to add that when talking to a couple of democrat friends, they mentioned that there were a lot of young people registering for the first time to vote. There’s your Obama push. Something to watch.

  16. G-Monster says:

    If I were a dem, I’d take Obama over Hillary and Edwards any day of the week. I don’t know alot about his philosophy and probably would not like it, but he comes across as genuine, where Hillary and Edwards come across as phonier than a 2 dollar bill.

    On the republican side, Huckabee doesn’t really excite me at this point. I like Romney as he comes across as genuine also, and I believe he has business experience and smarts that will be needed to keep the country going forward.

    The infighting between the candidates is a turn off on both sides, but I guess a necessary evil. Each time I see a candidate take a shot at another candidate, they drop down a little on my scale, unless it’s constructive criticism.

  17. G-Monster says:

    Also, Huckabee’s campaign manager threatening to knock someone’s teeth out doesn’t come across as professional or the Christian thing to do.

  18. sanity says:

    That’s funny G-Monster, I was thinking of just that earlier, when thinking of the Huckabee campaign.

    This is a person closely associated with teh Huckabee campaign, someone who represents it and what it stands for, and I hear these comments like you mentioned and make me think even less of Huckabee.

    When questioned on it, the campaign manager (rollins) said, it doesn’t matter, they are porcelain anyways. When talking about knocking out Romneys teeth.

    If Huckabee goes up against Obama, he is toast. Sounds like Rollins is all about getting in the mud and getting dirty, while Obama seems ot have won the top spot without lowering himself into the muck and mire. Many people admire that, while viewing the tactics that Rollins enspouses as old and outdated.

  19. Lorica says:

    If Huckabee goes up against Obama, he is toast.

    Now Sanity, you don’t know that. Obama is not formidable. Also, if Obama does win the Dem nomination, he has the Clinton War Room to deal with. Clinton will wait 4 years for her presidency, but she ain’t gonna wait 8. If there is any dirt out there, Clinton has it.

    Now the above scenario holds true only if Obama doesn’t choose her as Veep. In which case Obama won’t live to see 2nd term in office. – Lorica

  20. Great White Rat says:

    if Obama does win the Dem nomination, he has the Clinton War Room to deal with. Clinton will wait 4 years for her presidency, but she ain’t gonna wait 8. If there is any dirt out there, Clinton has it.

    And you’re about to see it in all its ugliness, Lorica. Up till now, the Hildebeest hasn’t taken the slime machine known as the Clinton War Room out of second gear, expecting it wouldn’t be needed yet. Once her coronation in Iowa was done, Silky Pony and Empty Suit were supposed to fade into oblivion and the War Room could be left idling waiting for the general election.

    But now that she’s lost Iowa, I expect that the slimy tactics and dirty tricks will become harsher and more frequent. No more half-measures like speculating about what Obama told his kindergarten teacher. You’d better believe there were some lamps being thrown around the room and shrill XXX-rated language used when she met with her campaign staff today. They’ve probably already got orders to go negative big time before NH votes.

    The interesting thing is that while she may fail to win the nomination, in doing so she may fatally damage Obama’s chances in November as well. Which would be supremely ironic if he were to put her in the VP slot on the ticket.

  21. Lorica says:

    That’s what I meant GWR. She will stab Obama in the back and give Huckabee the win, but only to take Huckabee on in 2012. She will end up destroying Obama, and quite possibly her own chances, but with the help of her friends in the drive by media she will be ready in 012. Her craven desire to have power knows no bounds, and she is going to go ruthless. I have no doubt she is trying to dig up information about Obama being taught in the madrasas and exactly what he was taught and any and all commitments he made to Islam. You hide and watch. She won’t be the bearer of this bad news, it will be brought to the public’s attention by one of her allies in the drive bys, but she will be the reason this information came to light. This woman’s need for power is very scary, and she will do whatever it takes to get where she needs to be. After all look at all the years of humilation Bill has caused her, and she has done nothing about it but use the sympathy card. – Lorica

  22. G-Monster says:

    Sanity,

    I caught the porcelin comment too. The whole ST room is going nuts that you said Obama would beat Huckabee in a general election.

    Between Hucabee and Obama, Obama gets my vote, based on the fact that he’s staying out of the mud and still able to be successful.

    Before everyone freaks out, we’ve only had primaries in one state, so we have to wait and see who’s running against who. To be honest, I wouldn’t vote for a dem, but I won’t vote at all, unless it’s obvious who I want to win.

    Obama wouldn’t pick Hillary for VP in a million years. She’d want the oval office and make him move into the VP office, just like she tried to steal Al Gore’s office for herself when she was first lady.

    Luckily for Al Gore, Bill stood up to her for once and told her how the cow ate the cabbage.

  23. sanity says:

    If Clinton loses in NH, do you think she will fold?

  24. sanity says:

    GWR:

    Obama wouldn’t pick Hillary for VP in a million years. She’d want the oval office and make him move into the VP office, just like she tried to steal Al Gore’s office for herself when she was first lady.

    I don’t know GWR.

    I heard some scary thoughts on Medved today concerning Hillary.

    The thoughts are that she could go for the Veep seat, if she couldn’t get Presdient. One being that after this, Hillary will be unelectable….

    But if she is Veep, she still makes history as the first woman to be VP, [b]AND[/b] when Obama’s term is up, she will be a shoe in with experience as the next president.

    The other scary thought was that it has been a long time since we have had something bad happen to a president, and if something did, she would be president from VP.

    There is also another interesting thing that got me thinking that I heard, is that if McCain picks Lieberman to be VP, they would be a very good team to go up against a Obama / Clinton ticket. Also that even though Lieberman is Independent, he does caucus withthe Democrats, but if he was VP with McCain, he would caucus with the Republicans thus swinging the balance of power there too.

  25. Great White Rat says:

    If Clinton loses in NH, do you think she will fold?

    No way. She’s got too much money and too extensive an organization to drop out after one caucus and one primary, both in smaller states. She’s got to be looking to the big states to save her on Super Tuesday a month from now. If she’s wiped out then as well, maybe we can start a rousing chorus of “Ding Dong, the Witch is Dead.” But for the next five weeks, it’s too early to think about that.

  26. Lorica says:

    Before everyone freaks out, we’ve only had primaries in one state, so we have to wait and see who’s running against who.

    To be technical, A) I wasn’t freeking out, I was explaining my thoughts on Hitlery. And any and all alternatves options that I could think of logically. We do not know what is in the mind of a person who has such a craven need for power. B) There has only been a Caucus, which is as much about platform than it is about candidates, NH is the first primary. – Lorica

  27. G-Monster says:

    :(|):(|):(|):(|):(|):(|):(|):(|):(|):(|):(|):(|)

    Sorry Lorica. Figure of speech. My bad.

    I’ll be freaking out if Hillary gets the dem nomination. Can’t stand her.

  28. Lorica says:

    =)) It is all good G-Monster. :) If I weren’t from Iowa, I would make the same mistake. As far at Hitlery goes. I can’t stand her either. But I wouldn’t put anything past her to gain the presidency. – Lorica