Comments on: The left’s silly attempts at morally equating Wright/Farrakhan/Hagee/Parsley (PLUS: VIDEO OF BO’S INTERVIEW ON H AND C ADDED) http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/03/14/the-lefts-silly-attempts-at-morally-equating-wrightfarrakhanhageeparsley-plus-video-of-bos-interview-on-h-and-c-added/ Don't dis or dismiss this miss! Fri, 10 Feb 2012 23:23:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Sister Toldjah http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/03/14/the-lefts-silly-attempts-at-morally-equating-wrightfarrakhanhageeparsley-plus-video-of-bos-interview-on-h-and-c-added/comment-page-1/#comment-738121 Sister Toldjah Wed, 19 Mar 2008 21:43:08 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/03/14/the-lefts-silly-attempts-at-morally-equating-wrightfarrakhanhageeparsley-plus-video-of-bos-interview-on-h-and-c-added/#comment-738121 Jerry, I've already responded to Patrick about that post via email. Jerry,

I’ve already responded to Patrick about that post via email.

]]> By: Jerry http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/03/14/the-lefts-silly-attempts-at-morally-equating-wrightfarrakhanhageeparsley-plus-video-of-bos-interview-on-h-and-c-added/comment-page-1/#comment-738119 Jerry Wed, 19 Mar 2008 21:31:56 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/03/14/the-lefts-silly-attempts-at-morally-equating-wrightfarrakhanhageeparsley-plus-video-of-bos-interview-on-h-and-c-added/#comment-738119 ST: You are correct in pointing out the indefensibility of the left's attempt to place McCain and Hagee on the same level as Obama and Wright.  That's not the question, though.  It's whether or not Hagee's interpretation of Scripture when it comes to Catholicism, or his interpretation of the Church's role in history both in the last century and those earlier, can be justified.  The simple truth is it can't. I understand your saying you researched the matter, for you did.  However, a further examination reveals (no pun intended) Hagee's lack of understanding both the Book of Revelations an history.  Please, look into these items as examined by <a href="http://paragraphfarmer.blogspot.com/2008/03/post-for-sister-toldjah.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>Patrick O'Hannigan</strong></a>, who's far better versed in the matter than I. ST:

You are correct in pointing out the indefensibility of the left’s attempt to place McCain and Hagee on the same level as Obama and Wright.  That’s not the question, though.  It’s whether or not Hagee’s interpretation of Scripture when it comes to Catholicism, or his interpretation of the Church’s role in history both in the last century and those earlier, can be justified.  The simple truth is it can’t.

I understand your saying you researched the matter, for you did.  However, a further examination reveals (no pun intended) Hagee’s lack of understanding both the Book of Revelations an history.  Please, look into these items as examined by Patrick O’Hannigan, who’s far better versed in the matter than I.

]]> By: OBAMA AND RACIST RHETORIC « Texas Hold ‘Em Blogger http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/03/14/the-lefts-silly-attempts-at-morally-equating-wrightfarrakhanhageeparsley-plus-video-of-bos-interview-on-h-and-c-added/comment-page-1/#comment-737836 OBAMA AND RACIST RHETORIC « Texas Hold ‘Em Blogger Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:41:14 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/03/14/the-lefts-silly-attempts-at-morally-equating-wrightfarrakhanhageeparsley-plus-video-of-bos-interview-on-h-and-c-added/#comment-737836 [...] Sister Toldjah asked it the other day. We blogged about it here. Now ABC’s Jake Tapper is asking the same question. In his Friday night cable mea culpas on the incendiary comments made by his spiritual adviser Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., repeatedly said, “I wasn’t in church during the time that these statement were made. I did not hear such incendiary language myself, personally. Either in conversations with him or when I was in the pew, he always preached the social gospel. … If I had heard them repeated, I would have quit. … If I thought that was the repeated tenor of the church, then I wouldn't feel comfortable there.” [...] [...] Sister Toldjah asked it the other day. We blogged about it here. Now ABC’s Jake Tapper is asking the same question. In his Friday night cable mea culpas on the incendiary comments made by his spiritual adviser Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., repeatedly said, “I wasn’t in church during the time that these statement were made. I did not hear such incendiary language myself, personally. Either in conversations with him or when I was in the pew, he always preached the social gospel. … If I had heard them repeated, I would have quit. … If I thought that was the repeated tenor of the church, then I wouldn’t feel comfortable there.” [...]

]]> By: Sister Toldjah http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/03/14/the-lefts-silly-attempts-at-morally-equating-wrightfarrakhanhageeparsley-plus-video-of-bos-interview-on-h-and-c-added/comment-page-1/#comment-737822 Sister Toldjah Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:01:07 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/03/14/the-lefts-silly-attempts-at-morally-equating-wrightfarrakhanhageeparsley-plus-video-of-bos-interview-on-h-and-c-added/#comment-737822 Jerry, the "other people do it too" defense is not what I was applying here. What I said was that most of what Hagee's has preached (that I have heard about, anyway), in his fire and brimstone way, can be found in the Bible. In addition to that, his opinion on the Catholic church and their alleged complicity via silence during the Holocaust is something that the Catholic church itself has acknowledged in so many words and actions (I provided a couple of links to back that up). You'll find many a Christian pastor who believes and the Catcholic church is what Revelations meant by the "great whore." I'm not saying I agree with all of Hagee's preaching, but there is some basis for what he believes and preaches. OTOH, there is no basis for the filth preached by Wright. He talks about Jesus being a black man and points directly to the Bible when he says that. Jesus was not a black man. He was Jewish. There's plenty more false preaching to be found from Rev. Wright's hateful sermons. And if you don't believe any any of that, one thing I think most of us can agree on is that McCain hasn't had a 20 year mentorship with either one of them, didn't attend either church for the last 15 or so years, and didn't come anywhere close to the relationship BO had/has with Rev. Wright. The moral relativists on the left have repeatedly tried to make these phoney equations between Wright, Hagee, and Parsley to try and negate the criticisms made about Obama's relationship with Wright. It's not going to work. Jerry, the “other people do it too” defense is not what I was applying here. What I said was that most of what Hagee’s has preached (that I have heard about, anyway), in his fire and brimstone way, can be found in the Bible. In addition to that, his opinion on the Catholic church and their alleged complicity via silence during the Holocaust is something that the Catholic church itself has acknowledged in so many words and actions (I provided a couple of links to back that up). You’ll find many a Christian pastor who believes and the Catcholic church is what Revelations meant by the “great whore.” I’m not saying I agree with all of Hagee’s preaching, but there is some basis for what he believes and preaches.

OTOH, there is no basis for the filth preached by Wright. He talks about Jesus being a black man and points directly to the Bible when he says that. Jesus was not a black man. He was Jewish. There’s plenty more false preaching to be found from Rev. Wright’s hateful sermons.

And if you don’t believe any any of that, one thing I think most of us can agree on is that McCain hasn’t had a 20 year mentorship with either one of them, didn’t attend either church for the last 15 or so years, and didn’t come anywhere close to the relationship BO had/has with Rev. Wright. The moral relativists on the left have repeatedly tried to make these phoney equations between Wright, Hagee, and Parsley to try and negate the criticisms made about Obama’s relationship with Wright. It’s not going to work.

]]> By: Jerry http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/03/14/the-lefts-silly-attempts-at-morally-equating-wrightfarrakhanhageeparsley-plus-video-of-bos-interview-on-h-and-c-added/comment-page-1/#comment-737809 Jerry Mon, 17 Mar 2008 06:40:21 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/03/14/the-lefts-silly-attempts-at-morally-equating-wrightfarrakhanhageeparsley-plus-video-of-bos-interview-on-h-and-c-added/#comment-737809 ST: Comparing the hyper-liberal reverse bigotry of Wright to the stunningly stupid anti-Catholic bigotry of Hagee is indeed comparing worm-infested apples to moldy oranges.  That said, one is best advised to avoid both forms of putrid fruit. There is no legitimacy granted Hagee's twisted theology because other idiots before him have preached the same garbage.  For a man who claims to believe the Bible is the inerrant Word of God, his ability to quote it at length while understanding distressingly little of it is a sad testimony to his... well, testimony. If the "well, other people believe and preach the same thing" defense is applied to Hagee, fairness states it should also be applied to Wright, since he is hardly alone in his beliefs.  Remember, I live in the San Francisco Bay Area, and grew up out here in the 1960s and 1970s.  Nothing Wright has said is anything I have not heard a dozen times over throughout the years from assorted pulpits in the area, passed on as gospel (no pun intended) by a fawning local news media.  I didn't believe it then, and I don't believe it now.  Neither do I believe in Hagee's babble about the great whore of Babylon, since the man has no genuine understanding of Revelations.  I believe in Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, born of a virgin, willingly dying on the cross as a sacrifice for your sins and mine to end the separation between fallen man and perfect God, then destroying the power of death by rising by His own power from the dead.  And yes, I am Catholic. Hagee and Wright are both contemptible.  Hagee's transgressions may not equal the filth Wright spews.  That does not make then acceptable. ST:

Comparing the hyper-liberal reverse bigotry of Wright to the stunningly stupid anti-Catholic bigotry of Hagee is indeed comparing worm-infested apples to moldy oranges.  That said, one is best advised to avoid both forms of putrid fruit.

There is no legitimacy granted Hagee’s twisted theology because other idiots before him have preached the same garbage.  For a man who claims to believe the Bible is the inerrant Word of God, his ability to quote it at length while understanding distressingly little of it is a sad testimony to his… well, testimony.

If the “well, other people believe and preach the same thing” defense is applied to Hagee, fairness states it should also be applied to Wright, since he is hardly alone in his beliefs.  Remember, I live in the San Francisco Bay Area, and grew up out here in the 1960s and 1970s.  Nothing Wright has said is anything I have not heard a dozen times over throughout the years from assorted pulpits in the area, passed on as gospel (no pun intended) by a fawning local news media.  I didn’t believe it then, and I don’t believe it now.  Neither do I believe in Hagee’s babble about the great whore of Babylon, since the man has no genuine understanding of Revelations.  I believe in Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, born of a virgin, willingly dying on the cross as a sacrifice for your sins and mine to end the separation between fallen man and perfect God, then destroying the power of death by rising by His own power from the dead.  And yes, I am Catholic.

Hagee and Wright are both contemptible.  Hagee’s transgressions may not equal the filth Wright spews.  That does not make then acceptable.

]]> By: Sandi B http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/03/14/the-lefts-silly-attempts-at-morally-equating-wrightfarrakhanhageeparsley-plus-video-of-bos-interview-on-h-and-c-added/comment-page-1/#comment-737795 Sandi B Mon, 17 Mar 2008 00:01:52 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/03/14/the-lefts-silly-attempts-at-morally-equating-wrightfarrakhanhageeparsley-plus-video-of-bos-interview-on-h-and-c-added/#comment-737795 OMG!!! This is the best article I have read on the whole subject about Wright/BO vs. McCain/Hagee/Parsley ..... just the best!!! Thank you I will be a regular reader of this blog! :) OMG!!! This is the best article I have read on the whole subject about Wright/BO vs. McCain/Hagee/Parsley ….. just the best!!! Thank you

I will be a regular reader of this blog! :)

]]> By: Tango http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/03/14/the-lefts-silly-attempts-at-morally-equating-wrightfarrakhanhageeparsley-plus-video-of-bos-interview-on-h-and-c-added/comment-page-1/#comment-737695 Tango Sun, 16 Mar 2008 03:48:56 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/03/14/the-lefts-silly-attempts-at-morally-equating-wrightfarrakhanhageeparsley-plus-video-of-bos-interview-on-h-and-c-added/#comment-737695 My what a tangled web! /:) My what a tangled web! /:)

]]> By: OBAMA’S ‘I DIDN’T INHALE’ MOMENT? « Texas Hold ‘Em Blogger http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/03/14/the-lefts-silly-attempts-at-morally-equating-wrightfarrakhanhageeparsley-plus-video-of-bos-interview-on-h-and-c-added/comment-page-1/#comment-737687 OBAMA’S ‘I DIDN’T INHALE’ MOMENT? « Texas Hold ‘Em Blogger Sun, 16 Mar 2008 02:13:01 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/03/14/the-lefts-silly-attempts-at-morally-equating-wrightfarrakhanhageeparsley-plus-video-of-bos-interview-on-h-and-c-added/#comment-737687 [...] ‘I DIDN’T INHALE’ MOMENT? Jump to Comments Sister Toldjah thinks so, especially since Barack Hussein Obama has been friends with and afollower of the racist, bigoted, anti-Semitic and anti-American Jeremiah Wright for 20 years but claims never to have heard the views Wright expressed this week. By the way, I'm calling Barack Obama out on the outrageous lie he told today about not being present in Wright's church when he made the offensive hateful remarks that have been circulating in the news media this week. As I said earlier, this is like Al Gore's "iced tea" defense - and similar Bill Clinton's stupid claim that he "didn't inhale" a joint when he had one in his mouth. There is absolutely no way in you know where that in his 20 year association/mentorship/friendship with Rev. Wright that he never heard any of Wright's controversial sermons/remarks. BO remarked tonight that had he heard any of them, he would have stood up and told Wright that what he was saying was "unacceptable" and went on to say that had he detected a "pattern" with Rev. Wright's hateful sermons, he would have left the church. GMADB! He knew. He's pulling the same ol ‘okey doke'that he slams "Washington insiders" for doing. [...] [...] ‘I DIDN’T INHALE’ MOMENT? Jump to Comments Sister Toldjah thinks so, especially since Barack Hussein Obama has been friends with and afollower of the racist, bigoted, anti-Semitic and anti-American Jeremiah Wright for 20 years but claims never to have heard the views Wright expressed this week. By the way, I’m calling Barack Obama out on the outrageous lie he told today about not being present in Wright’s church when he made the offensive hateful remarks that have been circulating in the news media this week. As I said earlier, this is like Al Gore’s “iced tea” defense – and similar Bill Clinton’s stupid claim that he “didn’t inhale” a joint when he had one in his mouth. There is absolutely no way in you know where that in his 20 year association/mentorship/friendship with Rev. Wright that he never heard any of Wright’s controversial sermons/remarks. BO remarked tonight that had he heard any of them, he would have stood up and told Wright that what he was saying was “unacceptable” and went on to say that had he detected a “pattern” with Rev. Wright’s hateful sermons, he would have left the church. GMADB! He knew. He’s pulling the same ol ‘okey doke’that he slams “Washington insiders” for doing. [...]

]]> By: omapian http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/03/14/the-lefts-silly-attempts-at-morally-equating-wrightfarrakhanhageeparsley-plus-video-of-bos-interview-on-h-and-c-added/comment-page-1/#comment-737610 omapian Sat, 15 Mar 2008 15:15:48 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/03/14/the-lefts-silly-attempts-at-morally-equating-wrightfarrakhanhageeparsley-plus-video-of-bos-interview-on-h-and-c-added/#comment-737610 Rev Wright and the DNC preach the same divisive message: rich white folks are the root of all evil; salvation requires attacks on the rich. Don't expect Obama, HRC, or the DNC to reject this message. Look past the messenger to the message. The G-d of Abraham is revered by Jews, Christians, and Muslims. The original message sought to bring people together. The different religious communities, following different messengers, have significantly different paths to unity. In some cases a savior will bring people together on earth; others follow a savior who brings people together in an afterlife; others believe they must act to bring about unity. Some messengers have accumulated great personal power by distorting the message to focus on the sins and misconduct of others without promoting a means to bring people together. Politicians want to tap into that power to get votes. Wanting it both ways, politicians embrace the messenger, accept endorsements (and cash), and then go on record to reject portions of the message that may offend the public. It is not important that Obama and McCain renounce Wright and Hagee. They both should reject any and all messages designed to set one segment of the population against another. Rev Wright and the DNC preach the same divisive message: rich white folks are the root of all evil; salvation requires attacks on the rich. Don’t expect Obama, HRC, or the DNC to reject this message.
Look past the messenger to the message. The G-d of Abraham is revered by Jews, Christians, and Muslims. The original message sought to bring people together. The different religious communities, following different messengers, have significantly different paths to unity. In some cases a savior will bring people together on earth; others follow a savior who brings people together in an afterlife; others believe they must act to bring about unity.
Some messengers have accumulated great personal power by distorting the message to focus on the sins and misconduct of others without promoting a means to bring people together. Politicians want to tap into that power to get votes. Wanting it both ways, politicians embrace the messenger, accept endorsements (and cash), and then go on record to reject portions of the message that may offend the public.
It is not important that Obama and McCain renounce Wright and Hagee. They both should reject any and all messages designed to set one segment of the population against another.

]]> By: Leaning Straight Up http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/03/14/the-lefts-silly-attempts-at-morally-equating-wrightfarrakhanhageeparsley-plus-video-of-bos-interview-on-h-and-c-added/comment-page-1/#comment-737601 Leaning Straight Up Sat, 15 Mar 2008 10:43:36 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/03/14/the-lefts-silly-attempts-at-morally-equating-wrightfarrakhanhageeparsley-plus-video-of-bos-interview-on-h-and-c-added/#comment-737601 <strong>Obama and the Rev Wright: Association and Influence concerns prompt repudiation and strategic withdrawal</strong> To me the title really details the critical point of the issue.  The story starts with Obama's church.  The leader Rev Wright is a fire and brimstone pulpit pounder, but not the usual sort.  Imagine if Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Louis ... Obama and the Rev Wright: Association and Influence concerns prompt repudiation and strategic withdrawal

To me the title really details the critical point of the issue.  The story starts with Obama’s church.  The leader Rev Wright is a fire and brimstone pulpit pounder, but not the usual sort.  Imagine if Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Louis …

]]> By: BO Plenty lies about his beliefs | BitsBlog http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/03/14/the-lefts-silly-attempts-at-morally-equating-wrightfarrakhanhageeparsley-plus-video-of-bos-interview-on-h-and-c-added/comment-page-1/#comment-737598 BO Plenty lies about his beliefs | BitsBlog Sat, 15 Mar 2008 10:19:17 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/03/14/the-lefts-silly-attempts-at-morally-equating-wrightfarrakhanhageeparsley-plus-video-of-bos-interview-on-h-and-c-added/#comment-737598 [...] ----Sister Toldjah rips Barack Obama.  a.k.a BO Plenty: By the way, I’m calling Barack Obama out on the outrageous lie he told today about not being present in Wright’s church when he made the offensive hateful remarks that have been circulating in the news media this week. As I said earlier, this is like Al Gore’s “iced tea” defense - and similar Bill Clinton’s stupid claim that he “didn’t inhale” a joint when he had one in his mouth [...] [...] —-Sister Toldjah rips Barack Obama.  a.k.a BO Plenty: By the way, I’m calling Barack Obama out on the outrageous lie he told today about not being present in Wright’s church when he made the offensive hateful remarks that have been circulating in the news media this week. As I said earlier, this is like Al Gore’s “iced tea” defense – and similar Bill Clinton’s stupid claim that he “didn’t inhale” a joint when he had one in his mouth [...]

]]> By: DavidL http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/03/14/the-lefts-silly-attempts-at-morally-equating-wrightfarrakhanhageeparsley-plus-video-of-bos-interview-on-h-and-c-added/comment-page-1/#comment-737597 DavidL Sat, 15 Mar 2008 09:52:41 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/03/14/the-lefts-silly-attempts-at-morally-equating-wrightfarrakhanhageeparsley-plus-video-of-bos-interview-on-h-and-c-added/#comment-737597 BO says that his reverend's view do not reflect the views of him or his wife. Tet Wright's hatred of the Umited States matches Michelle Obama's hatred BO is lying about his wife. BO is lying about his own belief. BO says that his reverend’s view do not reflect the views of him or his wife. Tet Wright’s hatred of the Umited States matches Michelle Obama’s hatred BO is lying about his wife. BO is lying about his own belief.

]]> By: Michelle Malkin » Jeremiah-gate: Glowbama’s losing his glow http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/03/14/the-lefts-silly-attempts-at-morally-equating-wrightfarrakhanhageeparsley-plus-video-of-bos-interview-on-h-and-c-added/comment-page-1/#comment-737564 Michelle Malkin » Jeremiah-gate: Glowbama’s losing his glow Sat, 15 Mar 2008 05:13:44 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/03/14/the-lefts-silly-attempts-at-morally-equating-wrightfarrakhanhageeparsley-plus-video-of-bos-interview-on-h-and-c-added/#comment-737564 [...] As expected, Obama’s defenders have whipped out the moral equivalence card. Sister Toldjah puts the m.e. card through the shredder and adds: By the way, I'm calling Barack Obama out on the outrageous lie he told today about not being present in Wright's church when he made the offensive hateful remarks that have been circulating in the news media this week. As I said earlier, this is like Al Gore's "iced tea" defense - and similar Bill Clinton's stupid claim that he "didn't inhale" a joint when he had one in his mouth. There is absolutely no way in you know where that in his 20 year association/mentorship/friendship with Rev. Wright that he never heard any of Wright's controversial sermons. BO remarked tonight that had he heard any of them, he would have stood up and told Wright that what he was saying was "unacceptable" and went on to say that had he detected a "pattern" with Rev. Wright's hateful sermons, he would have left the church. GMADB! He knew. He's pulling the same ol ‘okey doke' (see definition 3) that he slams "Washington insiders" for doing. [...] [...] As expected, Obama’s defenders have whipped out the moral equivalence card. Sister Toldjah puts the m.e. card through the shredder and adds: By the way, I’m calling Barack Obama out on the outrageous lie he told today about not being present in Wright’s church when he made the offensive hateful remarks that have been circulating in the news media this week. As I said earlier, this is like Al Gore’s “iced tea” defense – and similar Bill Clinton’s stupid claim that he “didn’t inhale” a joint when he had one in his mouth. There is absolutely no way in you know where that in his 20 year association/mentorship/friendship with Rev. Wright that he never heard any of Wright’s controversial sermons. BO remarked tonight that had he heard any of them, he would have stood up and told Wright that what he was saying was “unacceptable” and went on to say that had he detected a “pattern” with Rev. Wright’s hateful sermons, he would have left the church. GMADB! He knew. He’s pulling the same ol ‘okey doke’ (see definition 3) that he slams “Washington insiders” for doing. [...]

]]> By: stackja http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/03/14/the-lefts-silly-attempts-at-morally-equating-wrightfarrakhanhageeparsley-plus-video-of-bos-interview-on-h-and-c-added/comment-page-1/#comment-737551 stackja Sat, 15 Mar 2008 04:18:57 +0000 http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/03/14/the-lefts-silly-attempts-at-morally-equating-wrightfarrakhanhageeparsley-plus-video-of-bos-interview-on-h-and-c-added/#comment-737551 ST to me the left keeps giving with silly stories. You must learn to ignore them. Not worth the worry and pain. Less need for Tylenol. ST to me the left keeps giving with silly stories. You must learn to ignore them. Not worth the worry and pain. Less need for Tylenol.

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