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	<description>Don&#039;t dis or dismiss this miss!</description>
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		<title>By: forest hunter</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/04/19/weekend-open-thread-42/comment-page-1/#comment-740837</link>
		<dc:creator>forest hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW I happen to think the article is plagued with inaccuracy but I did like the part about give us some seed and let us do for ourselves........too bad the permanently afflicted reprobates on the government teat are incapable of even considering that option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW I happen to think the article is plagued with inaccuracy but I did like the part about give us some seed and let us do for ourselves&#8230;&#8230;..too bad the permanently afflicted reprobates on the government teat are incapable of even considering that option.</p>
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		<title>By: forest hunter</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/04/19/weekend-open-thread-42/comment-page-1/#comment-740836</link>
		<dc:creator>forest hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In this following quote is an interesting look back at history and &lt;a href=&quot;http://http://armenians-1915.blogspot.com/2008/04/2418-armenian-question-answered.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;what can be learned.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;As Turkish nationalist forces expelled foreign armies from Anatolia, Mustafa Kemal AtatÃ¼rk tasked members of the Turkish nationalist forces, including Halide Edip, with documenting atrocities foreign forces occupying Anatolia committed by interviewing survivors. In her memoirs, The Turkish Ordeal, Edip reveals that among the atrocities committed were incidents of massacres, intentional destruction of all agricultural efforts and infrastructure, and mass rape of local women by invading militias.

Edip notes in her book, that as she interviewed peasants to document atrocities, survivors told her they did not care to revisit the past, but wanted instead to tell their new leaders what they needed to rebuild their lives. They needed seed to plant, equipment to farm and to rebuild their homes before winter snows. They saw no benefit in her assigned task of revisiting and reliving recent horrors. They wanted to move forward and reclaim their lives, not live in the past and languish in misery.

Rebuilding the Future
There is another reason Turks did not want to remain buried in the past that no one discusses. Mass rapes have a predictable end result: children. Many of the women who suffered the unimaginable atrocity of mass rape later gave birth to children that they and their villages raised without revealing the truth about how they were conceived. To dwell on such atrocities would not remove the trauma or result in the conviction of the perpetrators. It would only stain and stigmatize the women and their children—victims victimized again. Just as there is silence today concerning the mass rapes and the children born of that heinous crime during the break up of the former Yugoslavia, the people of Anatolia chose to pursue their future, rather than vengeance for the past.

In light of the spurious genocide claims against Turkey which seem to be all the rage today, was that the right thing to do? Without a doubt, yes.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this following quote is an interesting look back at history and <a href="http://http://armenians-1915.blogspot.com/2008/04/2418-armenian-question-answered.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>what can be learned.</strong></a></p>
<blockquote><p>As Turkish nationalist forces expelled foreign armies from Anatolia, Mustafa Kemal AtatÃ¼rk tasked members of the Turkish nationalist forces, including Halide Edip, with documenting atrocities foreign forces occupying Anatolia committed by interviewing survivors. In her memoirs, The Turkish Ordeal, Edip reveals that among the atrocities committed were incidents of massacres, intentional destruction of all agricultural efforts and infrastructure, and mass rape of local women by invading militias.</p>
<p>Edip notes in her book, that as she interviewed peasants to document atrocities, survivors told her they did not care to revisit the past, but wanted instead to tell their new leaders what they needed to rebuild their lives. They needed seed to plant, equipment to farm and to rebuild their homes before winter snows. They saw no benefit in her assigned task of revisiting and reliving recent horrors. They wanted to move forward and reclaim their lives, not live in the past and languish in misery.</p>
<p>Rebuilding the Future<br />
There is another reason Turks did not want to remain buried in the past that no one discusses. Mass rapes have a predictable end result: children. Many of the women who suffered the unimaginable atrocity of mass rape later gave birth to children that they and their villages raised without revealing the truth about how they were conceived. To dwell on such atrocities would not remove the trauma or result in the conviction of the perpetrators. It would only stain and stigmatize the women and their children—victims victimized again. Just as there is silence today concerning the mass rapes and the children born of that heinous crime during the break up of the former Yugoslavia, the people of Anatolia chose to pursue their future, rather than vengeance for the past.</p>
<p>In light of the spurious genocide claims against Turkey which seem to be all the rage today, was that the right thing to do? Without a doubt, yes.
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		<title>By: vegas art guy</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/04/19/weekend-open-thread-42/comment-page-1/#comment-740802</link>
		<dc:creator>vegas art guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 04:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GWR, this is the same dude who thinks the Holocaust was totally exaggerated. So this is no shock. But the lie is  a whopper even for a career politician.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GWR, this is the same dude who thinks the Holocaust was totally exaggerated. So this is no shock. But the lie is  a whopper even for a career politician.</p>
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		<title>By: forest hunter</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/04/19/weekend-open-thread-42/comment-page-1/#comment-740800</link>
		<dc:creator>forest hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 04:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll try this again.&lt;a href=&quot;http://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2007/10/16/the-545-people-responsible-for-all-of-us-woes-by-charley-reese-older-article/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;545 reasons&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt; for our woes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll try this again.<a href="http://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2007/10/16/the-545-people-responsible-for-all-of-us-woes-by-charley-reese-older-article/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>545 reasons</strong></a> for our woes.</p>
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		<title>By: forest hunter</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/04/19/weekend-open-thread-42/comment-page-1/#comment-740799</link>
		<dc:creator>forest hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 03:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GWR: I&#039;m a little surprised that both the Hildebeest and the Empty Suit didn&#039;t think of going with the Dinnerjackets ideas as part of the spare change campaign. There&#039;s a guaranteed percentage of voters dumb enough to buy into the inanity they both spout now and they can always say they misspoke next week, as though the idjuts swallowing everything those two bad jokes have to offer were even slightly interested in reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GWR: I&#8217;m a little surprised that both the Hildebeest and the Empty Suit didn&#8217;t think of going with the Dinnerjackets ideas as part of the spare change campaign. There&#8217;s a guaranteed percentage of voters dumb enough to buy into the inanity they both spout now and they can always say they misspoke next week, as though the idjuts swallowing everything those two bad jokes have to offer were even slightly interested in reality.</p>
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		<title>By: Great White Rat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Great White Rat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 03:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As if you needed it, more evidence that Mahmoud Ahamdinejad is detached from reality:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2008/04/iranian-leader.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Iranian leader casts doubt on 9/11, Ground Zero victims&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Four or five years ago a suspect event took place in New York,&quot; he told a rally in Qom, according to AFP&#039;s translation of his televised speech. &quot;A building collapsed and they said that 3,000 people had been killed, whose names were never published.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

All of which brings to mind the foreign policy plans of both the Hildebeest and Empty Suit, both of whom have said, according to left-wing radio host Taylor Marsh&#039;s blog, that they&#039;ll enter into negotiations with Iran &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.taylormarsh.com/archives_view.php?id=26382&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&quot;without preconditions&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.

Hey Dems, here&#039;s a free suggestion:  at least insist on one precondition:  that the Iranians are a little more rational than our home-grown Troothers, OK?  Otherwise, if you think you can hold serious talks with loons, you&#039;re just as delusional as they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As if you needed it, more evidence that Mahmoud Ahamdinejad is detached from reality:</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2008/04/iranian-leader.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>Iranian leader casts doubt on 9/11, Ground Zero victims</strong></a></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Four or five years ago a suspect event took place in New York,&#8221; he told a rally in Qom, according to AFP&#8217;s translation of his televised speech. &#8220;A building collapsed and they said that 3,000 people had been killed, whose names were never published.
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<p>All of which brings to mind the foreign policy plans of both the Hildebeest and Empty Suit, both of whom have said, according to left-wing radio host Taylor Marsh&#8217;s blog, that they&#8217;ll enter into negotiations with Iran <a href="http://www.taylormarsh.com/archives_view.php?id=26382" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><strong>&#8220;without preconditions&#8221;</strong></a>.</p>
<p>Hey Dems, here&#8217;s a free suggestion:  at least insist on one precondition:  that the Iranians are a little more rational than our home-grown Troothers, OK?  Otherwise, if you think you can hold serious talks with loons, you&#8217;re just as delusional as they are.</p>
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		<title>By: forest hunter</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/04/19/weekend-open-thread-42/comment-page-1/#comment-740797</link>
		<dc:creator>forest hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 03:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://http://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2007/10/16/the-545-people-responsible-for-all-of-us-woes-by-charley-reese-older-article/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; 545 reasons&lt;/a&gt; for our woes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://http://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2007/10/16/the-545-people-responsible-for-all-of-us-woes-by-charley-reese-older-article/" rel="nofollow"> 545 reasons</a> for our woes.</p>
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		<title>By: forest hunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>forest hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 01:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The defections from the army have let them know who is reliable and who is not.......&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As well as the vested members championing the terrorists cause both here and abroad. It wasn&#039;t that many years ago traitors were rounded up and hanged for the kind of offenses against freedom and democracy constantly on display with the liberal mediots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The defections from the army have let them know who is reliable and who is not&#8230;&#8230;.</p></blockquote>
<p>As well as the vested members championing the terrorists cause both here and abroad. It wasn&#8217;t that many years ago traitors were rounded up and hanged for the kind of offenses against freedom and democracy constantly on display with the liberal mediots.</p>
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		<title>By: Severian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Severian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 00:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Sadr&#039;s desperately trying to cling to relevancy. Maliki has hammered him in Basra, and is continuing to roll up his forces in Sadr City. Despite the bleating of defeat the MSM has been doing, the Iraqi&#039;s have done well in hammering him back down, and even the Sunni&#039;s are starting to come back into the government process as a result. The defections from the army have let them know who is reliable and who is not, and political progress is being made. 

This is exactly the kind of result the surge was supposed to produce, and the Iraqi&#039;s are stepping up to the plate, so naturally the left wants us to completely abandon them, gotta snatch defeat from the jaws of victory while we can you know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Sadr&#8217;s desperately trying to cling to relevancy. Maliki has hammered him in Basra, and is continuing to roll up his forces in Sadr City. Despite the bleating of defeat the MSM has been doing, the Iraqi&#8217;s have done well in hammering him back down, and even the Sunni&#8217;s are starting to come back into the government process as a result. The defections from the army have let them know who is reliable and who is not, and political progress is being made. </p>
<p>This is exactly the kind of result the surge was supposed to produce, and the Iraqi&#8217;s are stepping up to the plate, so naturally the left wants us to completely abandon them, gotta snatch defeat from the jaws of victory while we can you know.</p>
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		<title>By: Mwalimu Daudi</title>
		<link>http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2008/04/19/weekend-open-thread-42/comment-page-1/#comment-740752</link>
		<dc:creator>Mwalimu Daudi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 22:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080419/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Anti-US cleric al-Sadr threatens new uprising in Iraq.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;

Those who can - do. Those who can&#039;t - posture and strut for fawning journalists at al-AP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080419/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Anti-US cleric al-Sadr threatens new uprising in Iraq.</a></strong></p>
<p>Those who can &#8211; do. Those who can&#8217;t &#8211; posture and strut for fawning journalists at al-AP.</p>
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