Comments on: Shocking: House rep calls President a liar on the House floor – twice

By: Xrlq

Xrlq — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 00:49:19 +0000

As a recovering Californian, I much prefer to refer to Fortney “Pete” Stark by his real name rather than the assumed one.

By: Carlos

Carlos — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 03:02:12 +0000

Wayne’s analysis is pretty spot-on. And unfortunately (for a lot of reasons) Wilson’s outburst was also the most honest thing said this entire year in the hallowed chamber of the House. Matter of fact, it could quite possibly be the only honest thing of any consequence spoken in that chamber in years.

By: Wayne

Wayne — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 21:08:18 +0000

So, normally I agree with the majority of what you have to say. This time I think we’ve come to somewhat different conclusions. Yes the media is politicizing this a lot more than it should but keeping it honest would be too much to ask from them.

However, I DO think that any member of congress interrupting a formal presidential speech is breaking the “rules” of the the assembly. Much as if someone were to interrupt the person who has the floor without recognition of the chair. It is a Robert’s Rules sort of violation that should result in a censure.

I’m not familiar enough with the process to know even where to look for these rules but I’d like to see someone point out exactly what rule he’s broken. However, taking it at my limited understand of the congressional rules of order I can see what the root cause of the censure may be.

The wording of the censure may reflect on how politically motivated it was. Currently the liberals are focusing on WHAT was said as opposed to when/where it was said which belies their true intention.

There are many blogs like this one comparing what he said with what liberals have said about Bush. Surely they’ve said worse, I don’t argue that point! However, have they interrupted a formal speech to the congress breaking the rules of order? That’s a different question altogether.

I’m also not saying he was wrong, I totally agree with him, and it may have been the only way he felt he could voice his opinion. However, rules of order should be taken seriously. If the government is truly to be governed by the Rule of Law, our feelings about WHAT he said can’t interfere with the fact that he voiced it at the wrong time, in the wrong place.

By: Carlos

Carlos — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:04:42 +0000

Disrupting the president’s speech was rude, but considering the treatment our former president got for 8 years it was in fact pretty tame.

However, the action in the House today is about a rule about dissing the POTUS or VP. It has nothing to do with the fact Duh-1′s speech was interrupted. If that was the cause for the action the entire jackass caucus should be taken to task for such behavior toward the former pres.

And if the real question is decorum, then why is Nazi Pelousy still a member of the House?

By: omapian

omapian — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:27:43 +0000

Potentially 435 members of the House of Representatives and 100 Members of the Senate heard the President claim his plan could provide health care for an additional 15 million people without additional cost to the taxpayer or rationing. One Representative had the nerve to blurt out what others should have been thinking.
POTUS had 238 days since Jan 20 to present his plan to the public. But like “the Emperor’s New Clothes,” there is no magic thread that only a few can see. There is no plan and Wilson called it as he saw it.
Good for Wilson.

By: giantslor

giantslor — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:15:39 +0000

Calling the President a liar wasn’t rude. Disrupting the President’s speech to a joint session of Congress is what was rude. There is a tradition of decorum that should not be broken.

By: Brontefan

Brontefan — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:21:05 +0000

If it was reported by the Dems or mainstream media, I would be suspect about the accuracy of how many actually called the SC tourism office. However, I saw the link on Mark Levin’s website and I donated money to Wilson. After 8 years of horrible rancor slung at the previous President, have these people no shame?

By: yo

yo — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:20:33 +0000

If liberals don’t visit S.C., the state’ll be a heck of a lot better off, don’t ya know.

btw, if you are a republican, DON’T BUY A GM Obama motors car!

By: Severian

Severian — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:36:23 +0000

Hey, I sure wish some of our state politicians would say something rude against The Messiah…we could stand to have less idiot tourists around. The one silver lining in the down economy is that there have been fewer idiots backing up the expressway these days or wandering around lost to have to dodge.

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