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	<title>Comments on: The latest on the Rush/NFL drama &#8211; and what it means for conservatism</title>
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		<title>By: LIARS: Fringe Media&#8217;s Phony Limbaugh Quotes Killed NFL Bid&#8230; Heads Should Roll, But They Won&#8217;t Because Lying &#38; Race-Baiting Are OK if You&#8217;re a Liberal (video) &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 23:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] American Thinker: If Rush Limbaugh is a Racist, Are His 20 Million Listeners Also? Sister Toldjah: The latest on the Rush/NFL drama – and what it means for conservatism Nice Deb: MSNBC Offers “Clarification” On Rush quote-No Apology and No, Rush Limbaugh Isn’t A [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Carlos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 17:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Used to be that the owners were somewhat far to the right of where Rush is now, but in a world where the leftists and socialists see nothing wrong with being capitalist pigs in real life and socialists in their ideology/fantasies, they have become the &quot;rich man&#039;s party&quot; that used to be the Republicans (and the Repubs are still caricatured as such) and have become the rich man&#039;s club as owners of major sports franchises.

As such, why would they want an old-school conservative amoungst themselves who would remind them of what empty-headed, hypocritical jerks and liars they are?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Used to be that the owners were somewhat far to the right of where Rush is now, but in a world where the leftists and socialists see nothing wrong with being capitalist pigs in real life and socialists in their ideology/fantasies, they have become the &#8220;rich man&#8217;s party&#8221; that used to be the Republicans (and the Repubs are still caricatured as such) and have become the rich man&#8217;s club as owners of major sports franchises.</p>
<p>As such, why would they want an old-school conservative amoungst themselves who would remind them of what empty-headed, hypocritical jerks and liars they are?</p>
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		<title>By: Severian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Severian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well T-Steel, your behavior and opinions as expressed here at least show that you do reign it in better than many, and you are right that a lot of it is home upbringing, how one is raised. Like a human being or a wild animal, everyone has darker impulses, rationality and discipline let you keep them in check. Sadly not that common in today&#039;s society. 

And you&#039;re right again, the owners blinked. I think far too often people fold when they should stand their ground, but for many I think it was a convenient excuse to provide cover for what they wanted to do anyway, I think there are a lot of left leaning team owners and league officials. I&#039;d have had more respect for them if they came out and were open about it and took whatever lumps came from it, but it&#039;s also a rarity these days. Not too many people say what they mean and mean what they say, especially in these overly PC times where allegations of racism and other nasties get hurled far to freely and to far too much effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well T-Steel, your behavior and opinions as expressed here at least show that you do reign it in better than many, and you are right that a lot of it is home upbringing, how one is raised. Like a human being or a wild animal, everyone has darker impulses, rationality and discipline let you keep them in check. Sadly not that common in today&#8217;s society. </p>
<p>And you&#8217;re right again, the owners blinked. I think far too often people fold when they should stand their ground, but for many I think it was a convenient excuse to provide cover for what they wanted to do anyway, I think there are a lot of left leaning team owners and league officials. I&#8217;d have had more respect for them if they came out and were open about it and took whatever lumps came from it, but it&#8217;s also a rarity these days. Not too many people say what they mean and mean what they say, especially in these overly PC times where allegations of racism and other nasties get hurled far to freely and to far too much effect.</p>
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		<title>By: T-Steel</title>
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		<dc:creator>T-Steel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I wonder just how dedicated the “black” players in the NFL would be to an actual “strike.” Remember football players in general are not that overly skilled with respect to doing another job, definitely not for high 6 or 7 figure salaries. How many would really endanger their lavish lifestyles, fame, and fortune for something as inane as this. I think they talk a good talk, but would fail to walk the walk. Both for money, and ego reasons (hard to be an important person when you’re looking for a job).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I agree 100%.  But the owners flinched first.  And Rush got booted.  I&#039;m not a Rush fan but it wouldn&#039;t bother me in the slightest if he owned a team.  But that&#039;s just me.

As a former collegiate offensive lineman, I have to agree with you on the character issue in general.  I wasn&#039;t a thug but I did have a genuinely nasty streak that made me very successful as a left tackle.  My upbringing did allow me to reign it in MOST of the time.  But I was involved with a few scuffles with other &quot;jocks&quot; on campus (nothing that got me arrested).  So you take a nasty streak, add lack of &quot;home training&quot;, you get alot of football players (whether from the &quot;ghetto&quot;, suburbs, or country).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I wonder just how dedicated the “black” players in the NFL would be to an actual “strike.” Remember football players in general are not that overly skilled with respect to doing another job, definitely not for high 6 or 7 figure salaries. How many would really endanger their lavish lifestyles, fame, and fortune for something as inane as this. I think they talk a good talk, but would fail to walk the walk. Both for money, and ego reasons (hard to be an important person when you’re looking for a job).</p></blockquote>
<p>I agree 100%.  But the owners flinched first.  And Rush got booted.  I&#8217;m not a Rush fan but it wouldn&#8217;t bother me in the slightest if he owned a team.  But that&#8217;s just me.</p>
<p>As a former collegiate offensive lineman, I have to agree with you on the character issue in general.  I wasn&#8217;t a thug but I did have a genuinely nasty streak that made me very successful as a left tackle.  My upbringing did allow me to reign it in MOST of the time.  But I was involved with a few scuffles with other &#8220;jocks&#8221; on campus (nothing that got me arrested).  So you take a nasty streak, add lack of &#8220;home training&#8221;, you get alot of football players (whether from the &#8220;ghetto&#8221;, suburbs, or country).</p>
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		<title>By: Severian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Severian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 02:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder just how dedicated the &quot;black&quot; players in the NFL would be to an actual &quot;strike.&quot; Remember football players in general are not that overly skilled with respect to doing another job, definitely not for high 6 or 7 figure salaries. How many would really endanger their lavish lifestyles, fame, and fortune for something as inane as this. I think they talk a good talk, but would fail to walk the walk. Both for money, and ego reasons (hard to be an important person when you&#039;re looking for a job). 

And ultimately, if they did strike and get replaced, that&#039;d be for the better IMO. Replace them with people for whom playing the game is more important than silly political grandstanding. 

But I guess we&#039;ll never know. I&#039;m sure many of them could have had a wonderful career in dog fighting or such. Face it, from the behavior of too many of them, football players, regardless of race, are not exactly people who should be idolized. Even Babe Ruth was not a saint, and times have degenerated since then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder just how dedicated the &#8220;black&#8221; players in the NFL would be to an actual &#8220;strike.&#8221; Remember football players in general are not that overly skilled with respect to doing another job, definitely not for high 6 or 7 figure salaries. How many would really endanger their lavish lifestyles, fame, and fortune for something as inane as this. I think they talk a good talk, but would fail to walk the walk. Both for money, and ego reasons (hard to be an important person when you&#8217;re looking for a job). </p>
<p>And ultimately, if they did strike and get replaced, that&#8217;d be for the better IMO. Replace them with people for whom playing the game is more important than silly political grandstanding. </p>
<p>But I guess we&#8217;ll never know. I&#8217;m sure many of them could have had a wonderful career in dog fighting or such. Face it, from the behavior of too many of them, football players, regardless of race, are not exactly people who should be idolized. Even Babe Ruth was not a saint, and times have degenerated since then.</p>
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		<title>By: T-Steel</title>
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		<dc:creator>T-Steel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 02:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me clear that up, ST.  &quot;The market&quot; is a poor choice of words.  The fans are &quot;the market&quot; but the players (black players) could have caused major headaches for the owners.  Conservatives are not about to bail on the NFL or football in general because Rush Limbaugh doesn&#039;t own a team.  Since I moved to suburban/rural Georgia, football is a drug who&#039;s addiction is lifelong.  So the NFL wasn&#039;t worried as much about the fans as they were worried about the players messing up &quot;the product&quot; which would THEN cause the fans to bail.

Like I&#039;ve said many times where I blog at about this issue, if conservatives, like LibertarianAdvocate said, stop purchasing those tickets because of the Rush Situation, THEN we would have some ACTION.  But conservatives love football more than Rush (or they have priorities).

GO FALCONS!  :d</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me clear that up, ST.  &#8220;The market&#8221; is a poor choice of words.  The fans are &#8220;the market&#8221; but the players (black players) could have caused major headaches for the owners.  Conservatives are not about to bail on the NFL or football in general because Rush Limbaugh doesn&#8217;t own a team.  Since I moved to suburban/rural Georgia, football is a drug who&#8217;s addiction is lifelong.  So the NFL wasn&#8217;t worried as much about the fans as they were worried about the players messing up &#8220;the product&#8221; which would THEN cause the fans to bail.</p>
<p>Like I&#8217;ve said many times where I blog at about this issue, if conservatives, like LibertarianAdvocate said, stop purchasing those tickets because of the Rush Situation, THEN we would have some ACTION.  But conservatives love football more than Rush (or they have priorities).</p>
<p>GO FALCONS!  <img src='http://sistertoldjah.com/smilies/yahoo_bigsmile.gif' alt='&#58;&#100;' class='wp-smiley' width='18' height='18' title='&#58;&#100;' /></p>
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		<title>By: Lorica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 22:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I owned a newspaper I would have a headline.  &quot;Rush Limbaugh Lynched by Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson&quot;.   Seems fitting to me, sorta like calling President Bush a &quot;Nazi&quot; or people who are protesting the new massive Gov. takeover of our healthcare.  

&lt;blockquote&gt;BUT the NFL can’t have it’s meal tickets, the majority black players, openly boycotting a team and it’s owner (and by proxy) the entire NFL. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Why would they boycott the NFL??  The majority of blacks have voted for the Democratic party for many years now, who have been openly discriminatory toward black folk.  Seems to me very little difference in this situation. - Lorica</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I owned a newspaper I would have a headline.  &#8220;Rush Limbaugh Lynched by Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson&#8221;.   Seems fitting to me, sorta like calling President Bush a &#8220;Nazi&#8221; or people who are protesting the new massive Gov. takeover of our healthcare.  </p>
<blockquote><p>BUT the NFL can’t have it’s meal tickets, the majority black players, openly boycotting a team and it’s owner (and by proxy) the entire NFL. </p></blockquote>
<p>Why would they boycott the NFL??  The majority of blacks have voted for the Democratic party for many years now, who have been openly discriminatory toward black folk.  Seems to me very little difference in this situation. &#8211; Lorica</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 21:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great comment, Desert Rat!

And as far as Olbermann goes, he may consider MM a “big mashed-up bag of meat with lipstick,” but that&#039;s got to be miles better than the pig without lipstick he is.  He really does need to stick to his sty and never be let out in public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great comment, Desert Rat!</p>
<p>And as far as Olbermann goes, he may consider MM a “big mashed-up bag of meat with lipstick,” but that&#8217;s got to be miles better than the pig without lipstick he is.  He really does need to stick to his sty and never be let out in public.</p>
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		<title>By: nina</title>
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		<dc:creator>nina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 16:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The majority of NFL players are nothing but thugs in tights. They kill dogs,beat up their wives and their girlfriends,shoot themselves. They are a disgrace. Now they have become political thugs just because BO is black. The white guilt part doesn&#039;t work for me. They can take the race card and put it u know where. Boycott the NFL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The majority of NFL players are nothing but thugs in tights. They kill dogs,beat up their wives and their girlfriends,shoot themselves. They are a disgrace. Now they have become political thugs just because BO is black. The white guilt part doesn&#8217;t work for me. They can take the race card and put it u know where. Boycott the NFL.</p>
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		<title>By: Tango</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tango</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 15:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...seems clear to me that there were many losers in this little circus, not the least of which was the NFL.  b-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;seems clear to me that there were many losers in this little circus, not the least of which was the NFL.  <img src='http://sistertoldjah.com/smilies/yahoo_sunglas.gif' alt='&#98;&#45;&#41;' class='wp-smiley' width='18' height='18' title='&#98;&#45;&#41;' /></p>
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		<title>By: Sorta Blogless Sunday Pinup &#187; Pirate&#39;s Cove</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sorta Blogless Sunday Pinup &#187; Pirate&#39;s Cove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 15:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sister Toldjah discusses the whole Rush/NFL saga [...]</description>
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		<title>By: TWoPolitics</title>
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		<dc:creator>TWoPolitics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 12:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We live in a new era of &quot;racist incrimination.&quot; It began January 20, 2009.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We live in a new era of &#8220;racist incrimination.&#8221; It began January 20, 2009.</p>
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		<title>By: Desert Rat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Desert Rat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 09:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And now, Sharpton is threatening to sue Limbaugh for libel! You can&#039;t make this stuff up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And now, Sharpton is threatening to sue Limbaugh for libel! You can&#8217;t make this stuff up!</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 07:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems that a team with Limbaugh&#039;s millions behind it would be in a position to pay more that a team without those millions. And since Limbaugh counts as friends many black NFL stars, I seriously doubt that many black players would refuse to play for a team that was partially owned by Limbaugh.

 I quit watching the NFL some years back when the overt criminality of the players got too much to stomach. But I&#039;ll not watch louder, now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems that a team with Limbaugh&#8217;s millions behind it would be in a position to pay more that a team without those millions. And since Limbaugh counts as friends many black NFL stars, I seriously doubt that many black players would refuse to play for a team that was partially owned by Limbaugh.</p>
<p> I quit watching the NFL some years back when the overt criminality of the players got too much to stomach. But I&#8217;ll not watch louder, now.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom the Redhunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom the Redhunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 01:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.

The irony of Jesse Jackson and especially Al Sharpton accusing anyone of racism makes the head spin no matter how many times it happens.  

And Sistertoldh is right; the market did not decide this one, a small bunch if idiot leftist commentators did.  The made up a bunch of quotes (and/or quoted made up quotes) and created the impression that there was a lot of outrage when there was one.

In other words, it was the triumph of the intolerant left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.</p>
<p>The irony of Jesse Jackson and especially Al Sharpton accusing anyone of racism makes the head spin no matter how many times it happens.  </p>
<p>And Sistertoldh is right; the market did not decide this one, a small bunch if idiot leftist commentators did.  The made up a bunch of quotes (and/or quoted made up quotes) and created the impression that there was a lot of outrage when there was one.</p>
<p>In other words, it was the triumph of the intolerant left.</p>
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