“The United States should not get involved in Nation Building”
Did you have a problem with that?

We didn’t go into Iraq or Afghanistan to “nation build” Mike. We went into Iraq because of their WMD threat and we went into Afghanistan because of their involvement with 9/11. Try and keep up.

However, as a responsible country, we must make sure the country is stable and able to maintain itself before we pull out instead of leaving it to collapse.

As for your civil war comments, that’s a crock. There was not a civil war. Certain elements tried to ignite one, but because of the work of our troops and the fact that Bush didn’t turn tail and run, a civil war was averted. What you saw in Iraq was absolutely nothing compared to what would have happened had we pulled out in 2004 like the democrats wanted.

You seem to have that liberal “selective memory”.

I’m a card carrying Republican

Ah, yes – right out of the Axelrod/DNC/Organzing for America script for concern trolls: establish an identity with the audience quickly.

For the moment, let’s assume you’re what you claim to be. Here’s where you go off the rails:

I was a stay the course guy although I thought going in was a mistake.

For a “stay the course guy”, you seem awfully disappointed with our success. I notice you had no criticism at all of Obama and Biden working to undermine US policy even AFTER the surge began. That doesn’t pass the smell test. To me, a “stay the course” attitude would be something along these lines: OK, I didn’t think we were right to go in, but now that we’re there, let’s do what’s necessary to win it. Not you. You’re still looking to give OBiden a pass while taking potshots at Bush. Not normally the sign of a stay-the-course man.

Then there’s this:

And Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11, or was part of this naive dream that bringing democracy there

Of course, ST never said Iraq had anything to do with 9-11. She said that Bush had to re-evaluate his statement in light of 9-11. But don’t let that stop you from regurgitating the stock leftist talking point. By the way, about the “naive dream”? A lot of Iraqis with purple fingers would disagree with you. And like ST, I’m more inclined to believe NC Cop’s eyewitness accounts than anything festering in your imagination.

And when you come down to it, you missed the point of ST’s entire post. The Obama administration has bungled everything they touch for over a year now. These guys make Wile E. Coyote look competent. Achieving a state of cluelessness would be a major step up for them. Now they are claiming to have finally succeeded at something – except it’s something they opposed at every step. And your response is, to paraphrase, it’s OK because BOOOOSH BAD!!!

So let’s summarize: a “stay the course” guy who’s disappinted that America won, drags out the old fantasy about Iraq and 9-11, looks to blame Bush for Iraq but finds no problem with Biden taking credit for it.

Yeah, that sure sounds like your average card-carrying Republican to me. Riiiiight.

“A legend in his own mind.”

As to your lame W quote, you ARE aware that after 9-11 that viewpoint had to be revisited, right? That we just couldn’t go into Afghanistan (which, according to the left, was the “necessary” war) wage war and leave without finishing what we set out to do? Same same for Iraq. You see, Mike, sometimes a President – as the CIC – has to adapt, to change course in the event of grave threats to our both our country and our country’s interests abroad. I know modern history reflects that the left doesn’t mind creating messes on the battlefield and then cutting and running from them without a care as to the type of utter devastation and mass deaths that will occur as a result, but that’s not how President Bush rolled and, in spite of his other faults, I’m proud of him for standing his ground on that when empty suits like Senator Obama were casually remarking about how genocide was no reason for US troops to stay in a country in which it had waged war – a shocking statement made by the man who wanted to be the Commander in Chief (a position that is supposed to exude strength, leadership, and character on a world stage, BTW), a statement which I’m sure gave no comfort to both the men and women in uniform who wanted to complete the mission, and the Iraqis who knew they’d be the victims if we cut and run before the mission was completed.

On the other hand, I’m sure Al Qaeda was taking note of the weakness of the junior Senator from Illinois’ remarks, and remember them even today even as he himself has adjusted his position on the issue of Iraq and Afghanistan now that his eyes have seen their scope through the eyes of a President, rather than just a cocky first term Senator with a thin resume.

I really, truly get so very, very tired of liberals who clearly know not of what they speak, who have no perspective, who only view things in terms of the “here and now,” who don’t bother to take a look at the bigger picture. Grow up, Mike. And get a freakin’ clue.